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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://gorbman.com/2009/08/04/crime-in-yucatan/comment-page-1/#comment-3417</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have someone wanting to trade my newly constructed adobe home in AZ for a home in Chelem.  Does anyone know if this is a high risk area?  My partner and I were already considering moving to Mexico or Equador but are so afraid of crime and the reduction of toursits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have someone wanting to trade my newly constructed adobe home in AZ for a home in Chelem.  Does anyone know if this is a high risk area?  My partner and I were already considering moving to Mexico or Equador but are so afraid of crime and the reduction of toursits.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://gorbman.com/2009/08/04/crime-in-yucatan/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alinde, please don&#039;t blame yourself for being normal and trusting. You did not commit a crime here - someone else did. This is not your fault. You did not invite the crime. You are the victim. If you made a mistake, as you say, I&#039;m sure it&#039;s one that anyone else would have made. 
It&#039;s wonderful though, that you can walk away with a sense of humor and preserve your ability to see the good in people around you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alinde, please don&#8217;t blame yourself for being normal and trusting. You did not commit a crime here &#8211; someone else did. This is not your fault. You did not invite the crime. You are the victim. If you made a mistake, as you say, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s one that anyone else would have made.<br />
It&#8217;s wonderful though, that you can walk away with a sense of humor and preserve your ability to see the good in people around you.</p>
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		<title>By: Alinde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alinde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Christofer--reporting the crimes probably helps.  But there comes a &quot;break even point&quot;, meaning the victim&#039;s pain vs. the gain for everyone.  As someone who recently had her wallet stolen, I must say that it is NOT easy to report things to the Mexican police. I spent a total of perhaps 8 hours,  stressful ones (due to my lack of familiarity, &quot;fair-to-middlin&#039;&quot; Spanish, and some other factors), and I now categorize the experience as worse than hurricane Mitch.  Even  HARDER  was dealing with the  the USA bank!   After three weeks, it is still not all sorted out, but at least I can write a bit about it.  Not much, but.... 

I did notice, too, that even the Mexicans who were  at the police judicial agency--probably waiting  as much time as I did, were patient.  I had to work at being  patient.  Yet I learned something--maybe the wait is why so many Mexicans go to such agencies with someone else.  (It&#039;s easier, if one is chatting in the line.)  And it would have been better for me, too, had I remembered to take a book.)  

 I learned some other things, too,  but they will have to wait.  It&#039;s still painful.  There is a real hit to one&#039;s self-esteem to realize that  they&#039;ve been distracted (or conned, seduced ) into taking their eye off their purse.  So a word to everyone--to quote a friend--our childhood training still pertains; &quot;Don&#039;t talk to strangers.&quot;  

But there were some plusses:  a super cab driver I happened to hail twice while doing all the errands-sans-drivers license; a friend who reminded me, &quot;we all make mistakes;&quot;  and the reminders to myself that many people have far greater problems. I even watched a flirtation , where the young man must have studied the eyes of Elvis Presley!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Christofer&#8211;reporting the crimes probably helps.  But there comes a &#8220;break even point&#8221;, meaning the victim&#8217;s pain vs. the gain for everyone.  As someone who recently had her wallet stolen, I must say that it is NOT easy to report things to the Mexican police. I spent a total of perhaps 8 hours,  stressful ones (due to my lack of familiarity, &#8220;fair-to-middlin&#8217;&#8221; Spanish, and some other factors), and I now categorize the experience as worse than hurricane Mitch.  Even  HARDER  was dealing with the  the USA bank!   After three weeks, it is still not all sorted out, but at least I can write a bit about it.  Not much, but&#8230;. </p>
<p>I did notice, too, that even the Mexicans who were  at the police judicial agency&#8211;probably waiting  as much time as I did, were patient.  I had to work at being  patient.  Yet I learned something&#8211;maybe the wait is why so many Mexicans go to such agencies with someone else.  (It&#8217;s easier, if one is chatting in the line.)  And it would have been better for me, too, had I remembered to take a book.)  </p>
<p> I learned some other things, too,  but they will have to wait.  It&#8217;s still painful.  There is a real hit to one&#8217;s self-esteem to realize that  they&#8217;ve been distracted (or conned, seduced ) into taking their eye off their purse.  So a word to everyone&#8211;to quote a friend&#8211;our childhood training still pertains; &#8220;Don&#8217;t talk to strangers.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But there were some plusses:  a super cab driver I happened to hail twice while doing all the errands-sans-drivers license; a friend who reminded me, &#8220;we all make mistakes;&#8221;  and the reminders to myself that many people have far greater problems. I even watched a flirtation , where the young man must have studied the eyes of Elvis Presley!</p>
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		<title>By: Christofer</title>
		<link>http://gorbman.com/2009/08/04/crime-in-yucatan/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Christofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beryl, I realize this article is a little dated, but you are doing a great service letting people know about the various scams that take place. 

Those living in the less &quot;gringo-ized&quot; areas don&#039;t experience this as often, but things do happen. 

Many people take the leap from &quot;lowest crime in Mexico&quot; to thinking &quot;no crime&quot; and that just is not true. 

There is an enormous divide between the rich and poor and actually, the poor and everyone else, because the poor are so badly off.  When you live in a thatched palm roof house that you built with your own hands on land of questionable ownership, and the only belongings are a couple pairs of shorts and t-shirts, a hammock and maybe a piece of a barrel laid on three rocks that you cook over, EVERYTHING looks appealing to you.  

This is not to fault the character of the poor at all, but rather as a reminder that Americans are vastly more wealthy than even most Mexicans of the middle class. By far and large, the Yucatecan people are honest, friendly, kind and upstanding people.  But temptation must come to mind from time to time. 

Still, all that said, property crime is the main crime committed.  Even your elderly friend who was tied up was not harmed or treated brutally as could have been the case (all too often) in the USA.  They stole her things, but she was alive to miss them. 

And, the final emphasis to add is this:  The Yucatecan police are actually quite talented and honest.  There have been many cases where they could have jailed a scapegoat, closed the case, and gone on about their business. Instead, just like in your friend&#039;s case, they pursue the true criminals, not &quot;the usual suspects.&quot; 

That is one of the reasons for the low crime rate: the police actually arrest the real criminals. 

So, please, always report every crime.  The friends who did not report the crime against them do everyone a disfavor. That might have been the break or the clue needed to catch the real, repeat culprits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beryl, I realize this article is a little dated, but you are doing a great service letting people know about the various scams that take place. </p>
<p>Those living in the less &#8220;gringo-ized&#8221; areas don&#8217;t experience this as often, but things do happen. </p>
<p>Many people take the leap from &#8220;lowest crime in Mexico&#8221; to thinking &#8220;no crime&#8221; and that just is not true. </p>
<p>There is an enormous divide between the rich and poor and actually, the poor and everyone else, because the poor are so badly off.  When you live in a thatched palm roof house that you built with your own hands on land of questionable ownership, and the only belongings are a couple pairs of shorts and t-shirts, a hammock and maybe a piece of a barrel laid on three rocks that you cook over, EVERYTHING looks appealing to you.  </p>
<p>This is not to fault the character of the poor at all, but rather as a reminder that Americans are vastly more wealthy than even most Mexicans of the middle class. By far and large, the Yucatecan people are honest, friendly, kind and upstanding people.  But temptation must come to mind from time to time. </p>
<p>Still, all that said, property crime is the main crime committed.  Even your elderly friend who was tied up was not harmed or treated brutally as could have been the case (all too often) in the USA.  They stole her things, but she was alive to miss them. </p>
<p>And, the final emphasis to add is this:  The Yucatecan police are actually quite talented and honest.  There have been many cases where they could have jailed a scapegoat, closed the case, and gone on about their business. Instead, just like in your friend&#8217;s case, they pursue the true criminals, not &#8220;the usual suspects.&#8221; </p>
<p>That is one of the reasons for the low crime rate: the police actually arrest the real criminals. </p>
<p>So, please, always report every crime.  The friends who did not report the crime against them do everyone a disfavor. That might have been the break or the clue needed to catch the real, repeat culprits.</p>
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		<title>By: Alinde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alinde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t live in Centro (as I suspect many of the victims do), but I would like to suggest, to anyone designing a house, that they consider a locked gate with space between the gate and the house.  When I answer these calls for help, I can take water to people on the street, and not consider letting them in.  And I&#039;d like to add, I have seldom if ever seen my Mexican neighbors even answering the calls from such visitors. 

My present belief is that if one is generous in other ways (tipping, payment to workers and such), it is easier to ignore the riskier requests.  The former owner of my house gave me some good advice to the effect that:  &quot;Remember, the workers are VERY  poor, so don&#039;t leave anything of value laying around when they are working.&quot;  She is a very kind and generous woman herself, so I considered it a good lesson.  

So far, I&#039;ve had few problems.  In the beginning, when I had to look at the cash register to see how much change I was to receive, I was short-changed rather often.  But now, now that I can understand what is actually said to me, this seems to have stopped.  

And I never stop remembering--I was burgled almost annually in San Francisco!  The finger-print guy even remembered me!  Here, in over 10 years, not one such event!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t live in Centro (as I suspect many of the victims do), but I would like to suggest, to anyone designing a house, that they consider a locked gate with space between the gate and the house.  When I answer these calls for help, I can take water to people on the street, and not consider letting them in.  And I&#8217;d like to add, I have seldom if ever seen my Mexican neighbors even answering the calls from such visitors. </p>
<p>My present belief is that if one is generous in other ways (tipping, payment to workers and such), it is easier to ignore the riskier requests.  The former owner of my house gave me some good advice to the effect that:  &#8220;Remember, the workers are VERY  poor, so don&#8217;t leave anything of value laying around when they are working.&#8221;  She is a very kind and generous woman herself, so I considered it a good lesson.  </p>
<p>So far, I&#8217;ve had few problems.  In the beginning, when I had to look at the cash register to see how much change I was to receive, I was short-changed rather often.  But now, now that I can understand what is actually said to me, this seems to have stopped.  </p>
<p>And I never stop remembering&#8211;I was burgled almost annually in San Francisco!  The finger-print guy even remembered me!  Here, in over 10 years, not one such event!</p>
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		<title>By: Rainie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger and I were also victims of the&quot; need water crime&quot;. She took my money, but otherwise didn&#039;t harm us. A month ago I heard she, or perhaps another female member of the Need Some Water Gang was caught by police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger and I were also victims of the&#8221; need water crime&#8221;. She took my money, but otherwise didn&#8217;t harm us. A month ago I heard she, or perhaps another female member of the Need Some Water Gang was caught by police.</p>
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		<title>By: millie</title>
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		<dc:creator>millie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only people who claim there is no crime are the criminals</description>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://gorbman.com/2009/08/04/crime-in-yucatan/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please go ahead and link. Please note today&#039;s update - the police arrested the suspect and recovered some stolen items.
Beryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please go ahead and link. Please note today&#8217;s update &#8211; the police arrested the suspect and recovered some stolen items.<br />
Beryl</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to hear about your experience and your friend&#039;s traumatic ordeal.  I hope you are both okay. I have always thought the frequent claim that there is virtually no crime, or no violent crime in the Yucatan, was surely exaggerated. If people are well-informed I&#039;m sure they will take appropriate precautions. So thanks for your story. I hope you don&#039;t mind if I link it to my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to hear about your experience and your friend&#8217;s traumatic ordeal.  I hope you are both okay. I have always thought the frequent claim that there is virtually no crime, or no violent crime in the Yucatan, was surely exaggerated. If people are well-informed I&#8217;m sure they will take appropriate precautions. So thanks for your story. I hope you don&#8217;t mind if I link it to my blog.</p>
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